S1 E9 When Caring for Others Lead to Burnout… part I

We’ve all been there. That feeling you get when you’re so overwhelmed, all you want to do is… nothing. That feeling has a technical name — burnout — and it occurs when we’re over-worked, overtired, and generally over it. Mission-driven leaders, who tend to be highly motivated, passionate, and over-committed, are even more at risk of burnout than the average person. They push their limits and exhaust themselves precisely because they care so much.

Join Ken & Rob in this two part candid conversation as they share their experiences of burnout and how they dealt with it. In today’s episode, Ken kicks off the conversation by sharing how burnout crept up on him in his journey with folks who live outdoors.

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Signs That You Might Be Experiencing Burnout

Emotional/mental/physical signs of exhaustion:

  • Low energy most days, fatigue that does not subside even after a night of sleep, dreading getting out of bed
  • Feeling more negative or pessimistic in both professional and personal life
  • Being more forgetful of appointments, responsibilities, events, or chores
  • Insomnia even when you’re physically exhausted or having fitful, restless sleep; not being able to fall asleep for hours; or waking up throughout the night.
  • Increase in illnesses due to a weakened immune system
  • Physical symptoms such as chest pain, muscle tension, stomach aches, headaches
    (If you experience any of these physical symptoms, get a medical check to rule out any other issues)
  • Anxiety – feeling so tense and worried that you feel impaired in your ability to do work
  • Depression – feelings of sadness, worthlessness, guilt or hopelessness

Depersonalization signs:

  • Wanting to isolate yourself from others
  • Avoidance of projects, people, responsibilities
  • Feeling disconnected from others and yourself, finding that you’re not as engaged as you used to be

Diminished effectiveness:

  • Lower productivity, undermined performance and despite your efforts feeling more behind
  • Sense of apathy or caring less about either the tasks, others or your performance
  • Feeling angry or irritable, frustrated with not being as effective

Rumors of Doing Good: S1 E9 When Caring for Others Lead to Burnout

S1 E8 Vivian Brocato – Loving Folks on the Fringes in Orange County California

In today’s conversation Ken and Rob are joined by Vivian Brocato from Orange County, California where she started and heads up Punx & Monx, a church for those on the fringes of society.

Listen in as Vivian shares her experiences of loving folks who live in the margins in O.C., and her passion for the arts. Vivian also discusses her commitment to the monastic lifestyle, cultivating silence, solitude, retreats as well as service to those impoverished in various mental, physical, spiritual and emotional ways.

The Rev. Vivian Brocato, MA, is an artist, devoted daughter, rad aunt,awesome sister, loyal friend and ordained Deacon in the Diocese of Churches for the Sake of Others. She received a Certificate in Spiritual Formation and Discipleship from George Fox Seminary, her Masters of Arts in Theology and Ministry from Fuller Seminary, and is currently in an Anglican Studies program at Northern Seminary. For nearly 15 years, Vivian has served a larger children’s mental health agency in Southern California in various roles.

For more information connect with her on Instagram at PunxAndMonx or
punxandmonx@gmail.com

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Rumors of Doing Good: S1 E8 Vivian Brocato – Loving Folks on the Fringes in Orange County California

S1 E7 Navigating Soft Entry Points

S1 E7 Navigating Soft Entry Points

As people who are endeavoring to do good, what does it mean to befriend others?

In today’s conversation Ken and Rob explore what it means to engage with folks on their terms rather than on our terms and why its important.

Ken and Rob also take some time to share their experiences of relating to punks, metalheads, folks without homes as well as anarchists and squatters on their terms and some things they have learned along the way.

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Rumors of Doing Good: S1 E7 Navigating Soft Entry Points

S1 E6 Mark Seger – Facilitating Community Dinners in Vertical Neighborhoods

In today’s conversation, Rob & Ken are joined by Mark Seger who facilitates Community Dinners in low income apartment buildings in Portland Oregon USA.

Mark lives in Portland, Oregon with his wife and two kids.  He met his wife Tracy in Dublin, Ireland where they worked together in the burough of Rialto leading children, teens and young adult community services with Liberty Community Church.  Seven years later they moved to Chandler, AZ to serve a church plant and run cafes.  God gave them a green light to plant a church in Portland where they made an absolute mess of things.  That is where their “divine do-over” started.  Community Dinners was born from a “Forge” listening exercise where their neighbors told them what good news looks like in the neighborhood.  They’ve been been adventuring in Oregon since 2009. 

For more info on Community Dinners, please visit the Community Dinners website here.

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Rumors of Doing Good: S1 E6 Mark Seger – Facilitating Community Dinners in Vertical Neighborhoods

S1 E5 The Beautiful News of Doing Good

What message do we communicate when we seek to do good in our communities and what does it say about the values that we hold?

In today’s conversation Ken and Rob take some time to share their hearts on what they hope to communicate when they are out and about doing good in their communities.

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Rumors of Doing Good: S1 E5 The Beautiful News of Doing Good

S1 E4 Jhon Henry Camargo: Accompanying Campesinas in Colombia

From L to R: Peter Shantz, a community member and Jhon Henry Camargo.

Jhon Henry Camargo from Barrancabermeja, Colombia joins us in today’s conversation as he shares about his experiences as part of Christian Peacemaker Teams (CPT), accompanying campesinas who are experiencing the effects of corruption in Colombia.

CPT places teams at the invitation of local peacemaking communities that are confronting situations of lethal conflict. These teams support and amplify the voices of local peacemakers who risk injury and death by waging nonviolent direct action to confront systems of violence and oppression.

The work of CPT includes:

  • Accompanying partners as they work nonviolently to defend their rights and communities.
  • Advocacy: amplifying the stories and voices of those experiencing violent oppression.
  • Human rights observation and reporting.
  • Solidarity networking: partnering with individuals and organizations to work toward change.

For more info on the work of CPT and current locations of CPT teams worldwide, please visit www.cpt.org. For more info on CPT in Colombia including info on joining a delegation to learn and observe the work of CPT in Colombia, please visit www.ecapcolombia.org.

Today’s conversation has been translated by Pierre Shantz, also a member of Christian Peacemaker Teams in Colombia.

Special thanks to Criseida Blancas for her production assistance with today’s conversation.

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Rumors of Doing Good: S1 E4 Jhon Henry Camargo – Accompanying Campesinas in Colombia

S1 E3 Because Everyone Deserves to Be Loved

Ken and Rob take time to chat about Ken’s mantra, ‘Because Everyone Deserves to Be Loved‘ and how this mantra can help guide us in our day to day lives.

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Rumors of Doing Good: S1 E3 Because Everyone Deserves To Be Loved

S1 E2 Rachel Byers: Journeying with Sex Workers

In today’s conversation we are joined by Rachel Byers from Cologne, Germany.

S1 E2 Rachel Byers: Journeying with Sex Workers

In today’s conversation, Ken and Rob are joined by Rachel Byers from Cologne, Germany. Listen in as Rachel shares about the joys and difficulties of journeying with sex workers in one of the largest brothels in Europe.

Rachel lives in Cologne with her husband and three children. She works as a dancer and Victim Advocate for survivors of childhood sexual abuse and rape. She’s been involved in raising awareness and working with those trapped in prostitution and sex trafficking since 2013. You can contact Rachel through Facebook under Rachel Rebekah or Instagram under Rachelrebekah5.

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Rumors of Doing Good: S1 E2 Rachel Byers – Journeying with Sex Workers

S1 E1 The Story So Far…

S1 E1 The Story So Far...

We thought it was only fitting that we begin this podcast by taking the time to introduce ourselves by taking time to talk about how and why we got into doing good, especially among marginalized folks.

Join us as we take a trip down Memory Lane and chat about some of the highlights of what we have been up to over the years until now.

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Rumors of Doing Good – S1 E1 The Story So Far…



Preview: Blind Valentine’s Date

Rob and Ken talk about how they first met on Valentine’s Day 2002 in Portland Oregon which sparked a lifelong friendship.

In this preview, they also take time to share what Rumors of Doing Good podcast is about and how it got started.

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Rumors of Doing Good – Preview: Blind Valentine’s date